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 GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!

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PostSubject: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:50 am

NOTE: Monster Resistance Percentages on second post!

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What is a defence for?

Well the idea of having a defence is to fend off people who have an eye for your unguarded luna or your artifacts that you may have been collecting. The amount of Luna they steal is 10% of what you currently have, maximum Luna that can be stolen is capped at 10,000Luna.

For some other people for example me, like collecting monsters to fend off (break down mentally with seduction of hot monsters) unsuspecting attackers and simply show off your pretty monsters. Improving defence is like a mini investment mixed with fun and anti-stealing countermeasures.

There may be a future event for defending but I'm not too sure at this point. That's all for now ;3

How do I build a good defence?

Well personally I don't want to give too many details since making a good defence is more fun by experimenting and testing yourself instead of having it all written down for you. Look for people who have a decent defence or a good defence and see how they have built it. What makes their defence fend off their enemies?

There are two things that are used in defences, tanks and runners. The main goal for your defence is simply have one monster run pass the bottom line and you would win. Simple as that.

I'll work on what tanks you should aim for later. But take a look at the Fantasica Encyclopedia for a full list of monsters and their Defence Ratings. Stray cats will always be the most effective runner in your team so... Don't Recruit your Stray Cats!

I need a defence now, how can I make one on a short budget?

Let's go over some cheap 4* mons that you could probably find:
The Kraken


Sea Type Monster
30,000 Health at Lvl 1
217,230 at Max Lvl
Melee Resistance: B
Ranged Resistance: B
Magic Resistance: D
Movement Speed: E

One of the most evil monsters ever to appear before a person unequipped with mage units. This mon may be slow, but its tank Defence Ratings pack a punch.

Now that we looked at Mr Tentacles, lets look at the second candidate for defence building:
The Chimera


Ground Type Monster
31,000 Health at Lvl 1
224,471 at Max Lvl
Melee Resistance: D
Missile Resistance: C
Magic Resistance: B
Movement Speed: D

If you paid attention to the coloured "D" on the Magic Resistance for Kraken, you'll realise why you might need this beast to fend off your enemies. That's right, Magic Resistance and that's not all. Chimera also has a D speed movement speed so it'll mix along well with your Krakens in battle.

I've mentioned about Stray cats earlier but here, I'll explain in detail:
The Cute Cuddly Kitten Stray Cat


Ground Type Monster
20,000 Health at Lvl 1
144,820 at Max Lvl
Melee Resistance: D
Missile Resistance: D
Magic Resistance: D
Speed: S

So what's so good about the Stray Cat? Take a look at the speed, S rank. The highest rank for cards, simply meaning Stray Cats have the highest movement speed amongst monsters. But you would take a step back and think, "Hang on, Stray Cats Resistance is like ridiculously low. How can she stop anyone from anything if she gets taken out so quickly?" That's why you have tanks then you throw your cats in to run through :L

If you built your defence correctly, and leveled your monsters enough. You should fend off 4* to 5* leaders no problem at all. Make sure you have enough tanks to eat up all the damage for your stray cat to run through unharmed, hopefully.


Monster Line-up



You may have been wondering, "How do I set my monsters in the order that I want it to?" Well it's pretty simple. Monsters are lined up in order of acquisition. Meaning the first monster on your inventory would come out first. For example, the first monster you ever get in your invent is say, a Mermaid. She will come out first in every time an opponent attacks. If you check your invent, use default filter and monsters filter, you can see the order your monsters come out

So how do you change the order?

For some of you, you might be familiar with the term 'Banking'. If not I'll give you a small summary here. Basically you send your ally/s your monsters and get them to cancel the trade for you. Then your units/monsters will be sent to your inbox. This is known as banking.

Once all your monsters have been banked, you simply take them out in the order that you desire. Also, remember to fave all your monsters!

Advanced Defence Making

Yep you heard me, Defence making is serious business for Defending Enthusiasts ;D So what's this title all about?

This is about the weaknesses that come with the defences you make and come up with. The possible units that your so called opponents would use to knock your monsters sky high and make you cry miserably after losing 10,000 luna that you'll eventually find in one of those training treasure boxes.

Firstly, there are 3 main unit types, Melee, Missile and Magic. So you'll need to have a healthy balance to tank all 3 types of units

Secondly, different skills that your opponent would use to eat up all your monsters.
Poison
Slow
Knockback
Area Attack
Attack Boost

The last two skills may not look like much but they're actually the most devastating of the skills in Monster Defences (not kidding)

Lastly, the stats of your opponent's units. Sure everyone has varying units which make it all different for every different attacker. But things like Deploy Cost and Damage you have to pay attention to. Something as much as adding an extra tank can affect how your defence would run.

Hit the Units tab on the Fantasica Encyclopedia Link I provided earlier to see the units that other people can potentially use c:

Since I ran out of things for the moment, I'll just end it here until I can figure out anything else I should list on the guide Razz

Extra Notes

My defence is open for testing, take a look, poke it. Maybe you'll find something shiny or perhaps 10,000 gold who knows xD. My ID is below my display picture :3

My Defence Status
Added 6* Fire Dragons to my Defence, now regularly beating 7*s *3*. Not sure I can improve anymore

Defence Record!

See Defence Status above pretty much explains what's going on lol. Feel free to poke my defence for a catwalk though ;3;

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V There's more on second post V


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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:53 am

In this post I'll provide the extroadinary

Monster Percentages!

Since Resistance rankings is just a rough guide to how much a monster resists, it doesn't provide enough information for Defence enthusiasts.

Brief Rank guidance to percentages:
S rank (unsure): 0% - 15%
A rank (unsure about starting percentage): 20% - 50%
B rank: 55% - 80%
C rank: 85% - 100%
D rank: 105% +
E rank: Ridiculously low Resist. Toad has 150% E rank


28/7/13 - Created a spreadsheet for easier sorting and comparison between monsters. Most monster resistance percentages are from Fantasica Chinese Wiki. Those with '(S)' means that I tested it myself since the Wiki didn't have any information on said unit.
Clicking on the blue titles would make it sort from lowest to highest or vice-versa

1/8/13 - Merged with Fantasica Encyclopedia ^-^

Link to Spreadsheet:
Fantasica Encyclopedia - Monsters

NOTE: If anyone wants to help me with any monster resistances I don't have on the spreadsheet and own those monsters, post your ID or something for me to test thanks ^-^

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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:50 am

Note : If you're ballin' enough, you don't really *need* a fully balanced defense. A defense consisting of a lot of succubus (6*, S magical defense) and stray cats mixed in is very powerful.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:07 am

elforte wrote:
Note : If you're ballin' enough, you don't really *need* a fully balanced defense. A defense consisting of a lot of succubus (6*, S magical defense) and stray cats mixed in is very powerful.
hmmm would that solve the Reve AoE problem? just wondering. Reve always seems to get me .3.'
at C rank Succubus will still take 100% damage, taking 4 hits from Reve. I'm still relatively convinced the 'ideal' defence has some sort of balance.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:14 am

SnowTempest wrote:
elforte wrote:
Note : If you're ballin' enough, you don't really *need* a fully balanced defense. A defense consisting of a lot of succubus (6*, S magical defense) and stray cats mixed in is very powerful.
hmmm would that solve the Reve AoE problem? just wondering. Reve always seems to get me .3.'
at C rank Succubus will still take 100% damage, taking 4 hits from Reve. I'm still relatively convinced the 'ideal' defence has some sort of balance.
It depends really! If they're running 2x Reve or something ludicrous -- then no! If you have enough Succubus' though, and you squeeze them far enough, then you can get some cats through.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:37 pm

So. Whats the best monster you can getfor overall usage? I.e. best stat wise or hp wise?
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:34 am

Nappitz wrote:
So. Whats the best monster you can getfor overall usage? I.e. best stat wise or hp wise?

king mandra. cheap. big. disturbing. massive hp. good resistance
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:08 pm

What determines the order in which the mons parade out or is it simply randomness.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:14 pm

The order is determined by acquisition, i.e. the first mon you receive into your unit list comes out first and so forth.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:41 am

@Nappitz: your question is a bit too unspecific. I mean we have to consider your budget and all that. I mean I could easily just said Black Dragon Razz
but those are expensive and not many are around. In any case, it's best to take a look at the Fantasica Encyclopedia I linked to on my guide.

Updated a bit on Monster Line-up
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:18 am

mini update
Added section: Defence Record!


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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:31 am

Update on Fire Wolf and Blanche's damage percentages on the second post!
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:37 am

Massive Update! Spreadsheet uploaded on 2nd post~!
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:11 am

Please check this thread also. Several people have added Data here, and this could greatly help fill in some of the gaps in the database.
 
Cheers for doing this Btw~

Edit adding the URL would help XD
http://www.fantasicaunofficial.com/t6750-monster-resistance-percentages
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:16 am

Ahh okay, kind of forgot about that~ I'll get to it ASAP thanks xD
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:29 am

random poke
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:11 am

Hun, you're managing the monster spreadsheet, rite?

I talked to someone who has a mlb Merrow Mon and her max HP is 686381. I think that's what we have been estimating.

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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:45 am

LuziMiazawa wrote:
Hun, you're managing the monster spreadsheet, rite?

I talked to someone who has a mlb Merrow Mon and her max HP is 686381. I think that's what we have been estimating.
Yup exactly that much o3o I'll take off the (E) once I get back on comp
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:31 am

MLB Medusa HP = 449287
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:02 am

darkenn wrote:
MLB Medusa HP = 449287
Updated thanks Cx
New Hp's and Resistances added for some of the new monsters~
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:47 am

I never knew any of this! Thank you!

I understand how to rearrange the order of my monsters now, but any advice on what order to place them? Cats behind tanks... Anything else?
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:02 am

Merivel wrote:
I never knew any of this! Thank you!

I understand how to rearrange the order of my monsters now, but any advice on what order to place them? Cats behind tanks... Anything else?
As stated on my first post, it's more fun to develop your own defence to play with. Poke other people's defence and see how they have built theirs .3. (Of course you can always poke mine) .3.
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:59 am

Random bump of boredom!
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 am

LISIN M MLB hp = 738050

WOW, right?
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PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: Assembling your Defences & Monster Resistance Percentages - Spreadsheet Merged with Encyclopedia!   Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:00 am

joeladams20 wrote:
LISIN M MLB hp = 738050

WOW, right?
WOW indeed, Immediately checked wiki then bought one '3'!
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