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Rekanize



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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:45 am

Space Butler wrote:
Before, so you have a chance to cancel.

Ah, good to know. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:50 am

i need to recruit a total of 20 units so i will be doing training either way..

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:00 pm

GamingPauper wrote:
That is exactly what I was thinking, so I was trying to figure out what was the smallest payload to deliver the highest odds of success, soul stone efficiency, I got three monsters I'd like to recruit, with a priority on the 5* that will probably take every soul stone I find in the next week, and still won't be max chance, so why shoot for that, just wanna be at least 50/50 or better

And keep in mind that leveling the monster increases your chances (presumably by decreasing the number of stones needed to get to each bracket). I just threw like 30 1*s at Laura before my attempt and got her up to lvl 15. A cheap way to increase your soul stone efficiency.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:04 pm

If you guys start recruiting, feel free to post 1) which monster 2) what level it was 3) how many SS you used 4) what was Mina's message and 5) whether you failed or succeeded! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:09 pm

My Sonia is already lvl 52, so I hope that helps
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:11 pm

Benedetta
level 1
54 SSS
don't remember.
Succeeded

on a side note

Benedetta boosts vlad land dmg from 110k to 166k ( land atk 10/10 and unit strenght 6/10) atk boost lvl 1

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:12 pm

Level increases your chance of success? Curious, did not know that.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:14 pm

GamingPauper wrote:
My Sonia is already lvl 52, so I hope that helps

must have been a lot of feeders.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 pm

just recruited Tullia...

1) Tullia ****
2) lvl 1
3) 112sss
4) Your chances of success are extremely high.
5) Succeeded.

trying for Sonia next.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:33 pm

aniken671 wrote:
just recruited Tullia...

1) Tullia ****
2) lvl 1
3) 112sss
4) Your chances of success are extremely high.
5) Succeeded.

trying for Sonia next.

cool good luck on sonia.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:37 pm

I threw 3 SSL on Tullia...
Yea, I'm impatient lol

Succeeded of course!
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:39 pm

So leveling up your monster before recruiting DOES increase your chances, or rather, decrease the amount of stones needed?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:45 pm

Cam wrote:
So leveling up your monster before recruiting DOES increase your chances, or rather, decrease the amount of stones needed?

Leveling up your monster before you convert reduces the amount of stones needed to get a higher chance... if that makes sense (i.e. it requires less stones to get those higher chance messages from Mina).

I'm debating whether or not I should convert Laura. Being a 5* sea monster is pretty useful imo.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:49 pm

rofl kinda scared to try Sonia lvl 1.

i have 6 LSS and 250 SSS to burn on her...

i try 3 LSS and 250 SSS, Mina says "Hmmm, improbable, but not impossible."

i try 6 LSS and 250 SSS, she says "Who knows? Your guess is as good as mine!"


Mina's not being helpful right now. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:50 pm

So the stone efficiency is confirmed? If so, I may have to level Sonia a bit. 4 LSS and 33 SSS later, and she's still all "lolimprobable". She's level 10, for the record.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:52 pm

Shokkeru wrote:
Cam wrote:
So leveling up your monster before recruiting DOES increase your chances, or rather, decrease the amount of stones needed?

Leveling up your monster before you convert reduces the amount of stones needed to get a higher chance... if that makes sense (i.e. it requires less stones to get those higher chance messages from Mina).

I'm debating whether or not I should convert Laura. Being a 5* sea monster is pretty useful imo.

i'm first recruiting all my sonia's be4 even thinking about laura

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:52 pm

1. Tullia (4*)
2. LVL 1
3. 2 SSL and 20 SSS, so 80 SSS?
4. Success is extremely high (forgot exactly what she said lol)
5. Success!

A part of me thinks I should've leveled her a bit before using my SS, considering I used all I had on this.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:52 pm

Gunzlinger wrote:
So the stone efficiency is confirmed? If so, I may have to level Sonia a bit. 4 LSS and 33 SSS later, and she's still all "lolimprobable". She's level 10, for the record.

You can confirm. For my lvl 15 Laura it was "Who knows? Your guess is as good as mine." with 2 L and 297 S. If you get a lesser answer with that many stones on a lvl1 5*, then it's confirmed.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:54 pm

Gunzlinger wrote:
So the stone efficiency is confirmed? If so, I may have to level Sonia a bit. 4 LSS and 33 SSS later, and she's still all "lolimprobable". She's level 10, for the record.

i get the same message with 15 SSS at level 27 bounce

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 pm

So... what're the level breakpoints? I guess that's the million-dollar question here.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:02 pm

ElysianField wrote:
Gunzlinger wrote:
So the stone efficiency is confirmed? If so, I may have to level Sonia a bit. 4 LSS and 33 SSS later, and she's still all "lolimprobable". She's level 10, for the record.

i get the same message with 15 SSS at level 27 bounce

Hmm, the ranges on LV1 (JP Wiki) are:

1~94 SSS
95~244 SSS
245~393 SSS
394~593 SSS
594~792 SSS。
793+ SSS

So LV27 is worth at least 80 SSS! Probably more, we can't tell unless someone levels a 5* to the point 15 SSS gets the third message (The 'who knows if it'll work' message).
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:05 pm

I remember the success "value" of stones being different for different rarities. For example 1 LSS may equal X amount of SSS for a 4*, but it was different for a 5* (at least that's what it seemed like to me).

As far as leveling goes, I heard before that ~20 levels make a notable difference.

This is all based on my faulty memory though so take it with a huge grain of salt. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:10 pm

Rakath wrote:
ElysianField wrote:
Gunzlinger wrote:
So the stone efficiency is confirmed? If so, I may have to level Sonia a bit. 4 LSS and 33 SSS later, and she's still all "lolimprobable". She's level 10, for the record.

i get the same message with 15 SSS at level 27 bounce

Hmm, the ranges on LV1 (JP Wiki) are:

1~94 SSS
95~244 SSS
245~393 SSS
394~593 SSS
594~792 SSS。
793+ SSS

So LV27 is worth at least 80 SSS! Probably more, we can't tell unless someone levels a 5* to the point 15 SSS gets the third message (The 'who knows if it'll work' message).

i don't get it , what do you mean with the 1~94 etc.? this the stars or the level and all for lvl 1?

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:15 pm

Shokkeru wrote:
I remember the success "value" of stones being different for different rarities. For example 1 LSS may equal X amount of SSS for a 4*, but it was different for a 5* (at least that's what it seemed like to me).

As far as leveling goes, I heard before that ~20 levels make a notable difference.

This is all based on my faulty memory though so take it with a huge grain of salt. Razz

You're right, I'm using the numbers for LV5 (after this event happened in Japan they did a LOT of testing with Sonia). They might have tweaked the values some... Lemme go over my test data:

To get to the "Improbable" message on my Sonia at LV35 I needed 2 SSL + 10 SSS.
When I got her to LV40 I only needd 2 SSL + 5 SSS.
It might just be a 1:1 trade? I dunno. It'd be easier if I knew certain values for sure. Like if 30 Small = 1 Large.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] Black Dragon Recruitment [Oct 5 - Oct 12]   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:15 pm

Leveling a unit for recruitment does very little. I remembering leveling a 4* in the past to lvl 50, it took roughly 60+ stones (high chance) in comparison to a level 20 which took roughly 80+. If I had to take a guess, each level is like a small soul stone.
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