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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:54 pm

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If anyone wishes to help me with the speed data, please use the following format :
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....... or I could just let you borrow any of my units you might require and let you do all the testing yourself.

Cause I'm much more of a bum than you are. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:00 pm

Magnus = .9
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:03 pm

Chiara = 1.05 = Freyja = Monica
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:06 pm

Pregare = Harithi = Alsiel = Nanaca = 1.1
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:46 am

Just missing Epicharis, Eluit, Patear, Myordia, Everleaf, Lilith, Solar, Morticia, Nunnally, Medicis.

Halfway there!
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:26 am

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Just missing Epicharis, Eluit, Patear, Myordia, Everleaf, Lilith, Solar, Morticia, Nunnally, Medicis.

Halfway there!

YAY updates!!! Support you!!! ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:39 am

And to answer a longstanding question :

Pregare > Chiara for mage air DPS.  The difference is so minimal as to be negligible though.

However, I might be updating Chiara and a couple other units to 1.05 speed from 1.08 speed.  If that comes true, Chiara > Pregare by 200 DPS.

Due to the margin of error involved, for all intents and purposes Chiara = Pregare for magic air DPS.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:43 am

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Just missing Epicharis, Eluit, Patear, Myordia, Everleaf, Lilith, Solar, Morticia, Nunnally, Medicis.

Halfway there!

So its no longer a 6* dps and now DPS for 6* and 7*?

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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:45 am

Finally Pregare's case is resolved Smile Now it's left to confirm whether Lilith will be best magic DPS in all areas or Freyja beats her in Air.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:11 am

so Pregare=Chiara at the end of the day
that won't do anything to either's prices Very Happy
I was looking to get a Pregare now that it's cheaper than Chiara and then keep her, but I guess Chiara will do as well
I still don't get why Chiara is so damn cheap
a top ranker told me Chiara is trash, I don't get it
she should be up there with Monica (little less)
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:17 am

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so Pregare=Chiara at the end of the day
that won't do anything to either's prices Very Happy
I was looking to get a Pregare now that it's cheaper than Chiara and then keep her, but I guess Chiara will do as well
I still don't get why Chiara is so damn cheap
a top ranker told me Chiara is trash, I don't get it
she should be up there with Monica (little less)

It's not like Monica costs that much now either, as well as Magnus. Our supply of magic units seem to exceed current demands.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:19 am

Monica is still above 100
Magnus is around 90-100
and Chiara is as low as 50-60
and we don't have a lot of magic KB pullable units
sorry for kinda being off topic Sad
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:03 am

sGabe4 wrote:
so Pregare=Chiara at the end of the day
that won't do anything to either's prices Very Happy
I was looking to get a Pregare now that it's cheaper than Chiara and then keep her, but I guess Chiara will do as well
I still don't get why Chiara is so damn cheap
a top ranker told me Chiara is trash, I don't get it
she should be up there with Monica (little less)

Top rankers = don't always make sense.

The only reason Chiara is so low is the market doesn't like her. IMO I think a lot of it has to do with bad memories from Soul Hunter II event.

They really boned both the top rankers AND the lower ranks during that event...
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:04 am

To answer another another question that has come up, Magnus = second best mage for 6* in the stats department.  As usual Monica > everyone because Mobage doesn't know how to balance their game...
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:08 am

Final question answered regarding DPS for now.

The DPS increase going from a 6* to 7* is approximately 10% more. (Monica to Freyja)

However, considering there isn't much data on 7s yet and Monica is the 'top end' for 6*s, the % increase going from a 6 to a 7 is probably more in the 20% increased DPS range.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:32 am

that (10%)20% increase is less than the difference between 4* to 5* and 5* to 6*, right?
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:15 pm

Another update to a question that has been asked :

Eluit is NOT the top melee DPS. (Yes, that claim she was the top bugged the hell out of me, you know who you are...)

However, she IS the top LAND melee unit.

Vlad has been displaced as the top land melee attacker.  All hail the new King (Queen) Eluit!

(Thanks NecroInFlame and AlmondMech for supplying an Eluit unit, I didn't have an Eluit unit here just the monster)


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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:18 pm

BK using you're own formula

Magnus = .9 with 76290 // 63150 // 72970

She has 1424 more ground damage than Monica - I realize her sea is still off...but that still puts Magnus on top for ground ya?
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:21 pm

Hurleyvp wrote:
BK using you're own formula

Magnus = .9 with 76290 // 63150 // 72970

She has 1424 more ground damage than Monica - I realize her sea is still off...but that still puts Magnus on top for ground ya?

 For Ground specifically yes she does out damage Monica by a comfortable margin (1k+).  For overall stats, Monica still reigns supreme.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:49 pm

I would be much more interested in new Aragon
her stats are impressive, I hope she's not like 1.2 or something Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:50 pm

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I would be much more interested in new Aragon
her stats are impressive, I hope she's not like 1.2 or something Very Happy

Ditto, strangely, I hadn't actually looked at her stats, I was wanting her mainly for her appearance.  Then I looked at the stats and realized they seem pretty darn good for a C speed ranged unit.  If her speed is on par with other C speed units she'd be replacing/tieing Octavia.  (and almost certainly looking FAR better)
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:26 pm

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sGabe4 wrote:
I would be much more interested in new Aragon
her stats are impressive, I hope she's not like 1.2 or something Very Happy

Ditto, strangely, I hadn't actually looked at her stats, I was wanting her mainly for her appearance.  Then I looked at the stats and realized they seem pretty darn good for a C speed ranged unit.  If her speed is on par with other C speed units she'd be replacing/tieing Octavia.  (and almost certainly looking FAR better)

my thoughts exactly
but I don't wanna actually trade my Okta for Ara until making sure Ara is a better unit ( that and also right now I would have to give 2 Oktas for 1 Ara because of her ridiculous price)
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:37 pm

sGabe4 wrote:
GnatB wrote:
sGabe4 wrote:
I would be much more interested in new Aragon
her stats are impressive, I hope she's not like 1.2 or something Very Happy

Ditto, strangely, I hadn't actually looked at her stats, I was wanting her mainly for her appearance.  Then I looked at the stats and realized they seem pretty darn good for a C speed ranged unit.  If her speed is on par with other C speed units she'd be replacing/tieing Octavia.  (and almost certainly looking FAR better)

my thoughts exactly
but I don't wanna actually trade my Okta for Ara until making sure Ara is a better unit ( that and also right now I would have to give 2 Oktas for 1 Ara because of her ridiculous  price)

1.05 > H.Aragon

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