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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:45 am

Acutally, I want to ask about the speed.
I see speed in the wiki on the 0.5, 0.8 scale, but more 1.1, 1.5 on this one.

I assume the numbers here means the time it took between attack 1 and 2.
Anyone know what it means in the wiki?
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:23 pm

7* implode on dps meters Razz
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:09 pm

Curious to see who's better overall between Magnus and Monica. I only want one mage.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:57 pm

Magnus supposedly has a DPS of 0.9 if I'm not mistaken
so we can do some calculations, but I was an English major so me and calculators don't get along too well
someone else (cough) BkWiz (cough) should do the math
but I'm guessing Monica is still by far the best Mage in the game

I would also like to the settle the Pregare VS Chiara matter
both are dirt cheap at the moment, but I wanna get the better one for the Neolith event
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:05 pm

sGabe4 wrote:
Magnus supposedly has a DPS of 0.9 if I'm not mistaken
so we can do some calculations, but I was an English major so me and calculators don't get along too well
someone else (cough) BkWiz (cough) should do the math
but I'm guessing Monica is still by far the best Mage in the game

I would also like to the settle the Pregare VS Chiara matter
both are dirt cheap at the moment, but I wanna get the better one for the Neolith event

I'm pretty sure Lilith shall outdo Monica Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:07 pm

but Lilith is not even in the game yet Razz
I win Razz Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:56 am

paveljevs wrote:
sGabe4 wrote:
Magnus supposedly has a DPS of 0.9 if I'm not mistaken
so we can do some calculations, but I was an English major so me and calculators don't get along too well
someone else (cough) BkWiz (cough) should do the math
but I'm guessing Monica is still by far the best Mage in the game

I would also like to the settle the Pregare VS Chiara matter
both are dirt cheap at the moment, but I wanna get the better one for the Neolith event

I'm pretty sure Lilith shall outdo Monica Rolling Eyes

I think you mean Freyja. Freyja is anti-air, Lilith is anti-ground.

Neolith will be weak to magic anti-air, which means you'll want either Freyja, Lilith, Pregare, Morticia, or Chiara.

(Freyja and Lilith are 7*'s and have way higher stats, Pregare and Chiara are the top 2 anti-air magic user 6*'s, and Morticia is magic anti-air, but 20 deploy cost and slightly lower stats, so she's the budget option)
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:05 am

Tentacle Love wrote:
paveljevs wrote:
sGabe4 wrote:
Magnus supposedly has a DPS of 0.9 if I'm not mistaken
so we can do some calculations, but I was an English major so me and calculators don't get along too well
someone else (cough) BkWiz (cough) should do the math
but I'm guessing Monica is still by far the best Mage in the game

I would also like to the settle the Pregare VS Chiara matter
both are dirt cheap at the moment, but I wanna get the better one for the Neolith event

I'm pretty sure Lilith shall outdo Monica Rolling Eyes

I think you mean Freyja. Freyja is anti-air, Lilith is anti-ground.

Neolith will be weak to magic anti-air, which means you'll want either Freyja, Lilith, Pregare, Morticia, or Chiara.

(Freyja and Lilith are 7*'s and have way higher stats, Pregare and Chiara are the top 2 anti-air magic user 6*'s, and Morticia is magic anti-air, but 20 deploy cost and slightly lower stats, so she's the budget option)

Lilith has C speed to Freyja's D, so she should have similar or even higher air DPS, and for ground and sea she's clearly better.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:56 am

Monica is an anti-sea mage 7* in disguise Razz
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:09 am

I deployed Claudette and Freyja next to each other against Lilith and it seemed to me that they attacked at the exact same speed
so that would make Freyja attack every 1.00 sec
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:27 pm

It looks like Patear would de-seat V. Diana as #1 Missile dps versus ground, but I sure as hell don't have a V. Diana to compare the two. Does anyone have a spare 7 kajillion te lying around?

At least this chart gets a lot easier after Lilith is out.

#1 in everything: Lilith.

What's that? It's got an S defense against magic, and six star units deal triple the normal damage against it? Lilith still kills all of her competitors and then it faster than you can blink!

Pew pew pew!
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:38 pm

you could actually test that quite easily
deploy Patear and any missile unit that has a 1.1 next their name in the chart (Okta, Dana, Nina, etc) and if they attack exactly at the same time, then BINGO we have a winner and a new heir to the highest land missile DPS throne Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:22 pm

From what It appears to me, It looks like Patear and Nina attack at exactly the same time so it looks like Patear is going to be getting comfy on that throne.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:53 pm

Sweeeeeet.

If anyone's interested in uptrading their Valentine's Diana, WINK WINK.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Tentacle Love wrote:
Sweeeeeet.

If anyone's interested in uptrading their Valentine's Diana, WINK WINK.

I doubt any of V.Diana owners are holding onto her for the DPS value Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:03 pm

paveljevs wrote:
Tentacle Love wrote:
Sweeeeeet.

If anyone's interested in uptrading their Valentine's Diana, WINK WINK.

I doubt any of V.Diana owners are holding onto her for the DPS value Rolling Eyes


Shoosh!

I can dream, can't I?
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:39 pm

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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:05 pm

support my dear ally BK! ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:28 pm

sGabe4 wrote:
Magnus supposedly has a DPS of 0.9 if I'm not mistaken
so we can do some calculations, but I was an English major so me and calculators don't get along too well
someone else (cough) BkWiz (cough) should do the math
but I'm guessing Monica is still by far the best Mage in the game

I would also like to the settle the Pregare VS Chiara matter
both are dirt cheap at the moment, but I wanna get the better one for the Neolith event

Based on .9 math

Magnus

Ground 98,039 /// Air 81,087 /// Sea 93,773

Lilith

Ground 133,239 /// Air 118,956 /// Sea 128,478
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:33 pm

sGabe4 wrote:
I deployed Claudette and Freyja next to each other against Lilith and it seemed to me that they attacked at the exact same speed
so that would make Freyja attack every 1.00 sec

If Freya is at 1.0 and not slower than she will have a higher dps than Lilith for Air. Other than that Freya isn't all that fabulous for a 7*

She is only 21k more dps than Magnus (Air/Sea) - I would have liked or expected a bigger jump for a 7*

But that's just me
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:37 pm

Massive update incoming.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:58 pm

Partial Change Log : 

Speeds for a bunch of units updated.
7* added to tables
Mages will be slowest due to lack of data atm.  Will update over next 2-3 days.
Melee/Archer/Mage/Total tables to be updated once mages and missing melee/archers finished.
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:01 pm

If anyone wishes to help me with the speed data, please use the following format :

Unit A v. Unit B

Faster than/Slower than/Equal to

Preferably I like the third option most, but even the first two help.

Please make sure to compare them to units with KNOWN speeds.  Make sure they are not leadered either!

This will make it MUCH easier to confirm and post results if the results are missing!

As an example of the above format:


Dana v. Nanaca

Speeds are equal to each other


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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:01 pm

yessss cheers bounce bounce

ETA:
Freyja VS Claudette
equal speed

(plz don't stone me if I'm not right) Razz
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PostSubject: Re: DPS Tables - Massive Update in Progress   Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:48 pm

Freyja 1.05
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