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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:48 pm

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Ok BIG QUESTION um after players report them from what they did, do they really get banned or is that just a lie? =.=

They get banned from the forum but no one can ban them in-game.

Oh man for real? Well they need to step it up and ban them from the game. Oh and thank you for responding.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:29 pm

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Ok BIG QUESTION um after players report them from what they did, do they really get banned or is that just a lie? =.=

They get banned from the forum but no one can ban them in-game.

Oh man for real? Well they need to step it up and ban them from the game. Oh and thank you for responding.

Well Mobage can't do anything about it since in the warning they say once you trade it's not their fault if you can't get a trade back.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:59 pm

Looks like ZachLovesLondon (ID, 59643916) is being accused of stealing 19 TE from his ally then de-allying him. I have screen shots but there's two sides to the story and you know he's saying he didn't do it but his ally is saying he did so ill just post them.

P.S the ally in the screen shots he is talking to is his current ally who believes ZachLovesLondon is innocent and the guy who has the Ignat has his lead is the accused victim.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:44 pm

Oh whoops, looks like I can't put up the screen shots since I apparently skipped part of the conversation, I mean I could still put up the screen shots but there would be like one thing the guy said that would be left out.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:10 pm

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Do you have screenshots for evidence that you can post please? Otherwise it's just your say so and that is not enough.

I admittedly do not. By the time I looked, it was already a lot of angry messages on the alleged scammer's wall and that person did not leave any messages anywhere. (In fact, they've been gone since the time of the accusations.) I can retract my post if you'd like, but I was just sharing what people were posting.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:09 pm

BigMastaB97 wrote:
Oh whoops, looks like I can't put up the screen shots since I apparently skipped part of the conversation, I mean I could still put up the screen shots but there would be like one thing the guy said that would be left out.

You should post them. You don't need a whole conversation, just enough to show what went on and most is certainly better than nothing at all.

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Do you have screenshots for evidence that you can post please? Otherwise it's just your say so and that is not enough.

I admittedly do not. By the time I looked, it was already a lot of angry messages on the alleged scammer's wall and that person did not leave any messages anywhere. (In fact, they've been gone since the time of the accusations.) I can retract my post if you'd like, but I was just sharing what people were posting.

Yeah thats the biggest issue with people raging at scammers. It doesn't achieve anything, all they do is spam away the evidence making things difficult to prove Sad definitely leave the information up (I only mean it's not enough for it to be added to the main post but the information is definitely useful for those of us who do read what gets posted here). This person will probably do it again and when they do, it's good that it can be seen that they are a repeat offender.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:38 pm

Alright I'll do it sometime tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:02 pm

Alright here they are... once again the guy with the Elena his ZachLovesLondon's ally who believes his story, and the guy with Ignat is the accused vitcim.











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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:26 pm

deedlit228 wrote:
Danaerys83 wrote:


Do you have screenshots for evidence that you can post please? Otherwise it's just your say so and that is not enough.

I admittedly do not. By the time I looked, it was already a lot of angry messages on the alleged scammer's wall and that person did not leave any messages anywhere. (In fact, they've been gone since the time of the accusations.) I can retract my post if you'd like, but I was just sharing what people were posting.

I dont have evidence to this case either, I'd just like to add that Shadowfox is an ally of my close ally and I asked him if this happened and he said yes. This doesnt prove anything obviously just adds to the possible dishonesty of the scammer in question
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:58 pm

53779094 scammed their ally, KainxKaname, her Nina and Vlad.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:26 pm

I want to add some screenshots to what alley1221 has already provided.

53779094 hawt-tamales scammed their ally, kainxkaname's, Nina & Vlad.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:43 pm

larrydust wrote:
I want to add some screenshots to what alley1221 has already provided.

53779094 hawt-tamales scammed their ally, kainxkaname's, Nina & Vlad.

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This chick seems like she has some psychological problems, not just cause she stole cards, but just her attitude seems too mellow for everyone to be hating her at the moment, idk how to explain it. She doesn't sit right with me.

That's the most simple way I can explain the vibe I get from her lol.
Anyone else feel this way? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:45 pm

hmm seems kinda strange she is "sorry" but then wont return them.

honestly sucks about there recently being so many scammers.

especially when it hits close to it being an ally that got scammed or an ally that did scam.

unfortunately both has happened to me so far and its rather terrible both ways.

clench and aniken were both unfortunately scammed.

tried to help aniken out by talking to the guy but as you all have seen he is just completely unreasonable.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:42 am

Mad Why do people do this to others? Crying or Very sad
And to scam your own ally? thats like punching your friend in the face =/ I hope they get their cards back
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:45 am

Unfortunately any time you are in an environment where $$ is a factor, there will be people who steal.

If you want an idea what is going through the theives heads, think about some of the things people say when talking about how "unfair" it is that someone can buy their way to the top rankings.

That's justification for theft in some peoples eyes, just evening the odds because I can't or don't want to spend this $$ and you do, YOU'RE the one who's cheating. I'm just using my smarts to even the odds.

Also, every online environment I have ever existed in contained Trolls, and most games contain Greifers. People who's enjoyment is not the community or game, but any suffering they can cause within it.

Thieves who are acting with that intention would be the ones who seem to be baiting the people who are trying to get them to return their stolen goods. Who laugh at them.

Why? Because they think it's fun, and because even though we hate to admit it there are NO REAL PENALTIES for it.

I mean hey I want to piss off a bunch of people and laugh as they cry and whine. I'll steal some cards, then an army of people will post on my wall for me to laugh at for a few days.
Then it all blows over, and I can either seek out some new associates and go back to playing the game with my new free cards for find another sucker and repeat the process.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 pm

^ All very true. It's just sad, I mean when I got scammed I cried(yes, Ill admit that I cried over Fantasica, and not even about 6*s Razz ) but I was sad not only that 2 of my favorite cards were gone but I was sad for humanity as well. (that sounds lame, Im not a hippie or anything but i hate how F'ed up people/society/human nature is..)
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:37 pm

That Hawt guy i mentioned earlier in one of my posts is my ally. Pretty cool guy, not a girl btw. But all of a sudden he starts to flip out and doesn't care what's going on. I've been watching him carefully since we became allies, noticed that his luck with 6* is off the charts as for me I still haven't gotten any after 300 bucks. So he ws trading religiously for other 6*. I couldn't even keep up then. In regards in scamming, if you can do it and get away with it. anyone will do it. Yes you're not gonna caught if you stole 1 million bucks from a bank and they let you go free without any punishment, yea anyone will do it, even me. But the main thing why we stop ourselves from taking that money is the reason of things that come from ( there's a term for that but I forgot) The reason that money doesn't just build up naturally and given to random person, there's taxes, donations, fees involve. Yes you can take the money but others who contribute to that money will be hurt by it. What if that million dollars was meant for a donation to charities out there and you end up taking it for yourself. Scammer's don't think this. they just do it cause they can get a way with it.
So at this point, I'm am watching the chats going on between the hawt and kain, to see if they come to a resolution. I also don't want to post anything that would hurt others if you want to know more, feel free to PM me.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:59 pm

Subwerd wrote:
Kid got what he deserved. Talked smack to my friend so I jacked his Edgar. Karma sucks.

Spoken from the scammer himself. -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:33 pm

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Do not make unofficial lists. Names that go on the official list are a result of much investigation. YOu may posts screen shots but do not compile unofficial lists.


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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:35 pm

I hope this help everyone. I hope that post is ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:05 pm

in addition, Herane 11820940 has SEVERAL alternate accounts.
unfortunately, I do not have ID #s for them.

Herane
Heranes
Herane75
HeraneX

If it is any variation of Herane, beware.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:10 pm

nemencio is not a scammer. I witnessed when this came up. The accuser had a case of buyer's remorse and called it a scam. Common allies of both were defending Nemencio at the time and getting cursed at in all caps by the accuser.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:48 pm

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nemencio is not a scammer. I witnessed when this came up. The accuser had a case of buyer's remorse and called it a scam. Common allies of both were defending Nemencio at the time and getting cursed at in all caps by the accuser.


Thank you for that info ill take him off the list.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:03 pm

Look at the list, it's pretty sad and how frequent scams are happening.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:19 pm

Got more Intel on the Ironmonkey777/MrrRager situation. First, I am allied with Rager. I have never seen any accusations come across his page. He has also been active in trying to get scammers to give back stolen cards.

That said, he did offer to buy the stolen LuBu from Herane. When questioned by me privately, he said it was with the intent of giving it back
People were accusing him of being a scammer supporter on Herane's wall. As far as I know, he has not scammed anyone. If anyone has screenies or other evidence to refute this, please post. I don't want a scammer as an ally. At the same time, I don't want to drop an ally due to unsubstantiated rumor
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