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PostSubject: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:19 pm

8/29/2013 - NEW STANCE ON SCAMMING!

After trying to keep this a fair and equitable process, it has come to our attention that keeping a scamming list with the little bit of evidence that is usually presented is a difficult and often impossible task. To label someone a scammer on the tiny bit of out of game evidence people usually present would not be fair. Lets remember that the in game trade system is NOT for lending, level breaking, or albuming cards. The trade function is for trading, period. If you use the trade function for any purpose other than trading, you do so at your own risk. You should get proper collateral and take other preventative measures. This scam list will no longer be updated



Sometimes scams occur. Below is a list of people who have scammed & what they have scammed and how.

But first, PLEASE READ THE HOW TO NOT GET SCAMMED STICKY -- ESPECIALLY THE PART ON ALBUM TRADES. Album trades are the most common way scams occur. Do not album trade any card away without getting collateral that you wouldn't mind keeping in the event a trade goes wrong!

LIST:

  • 51721727 / dodad123; album stole Anastasia from dnonamus
  • 51227612 / Sapran; album stole a Vlad from liberty2704, Dorothea from carliefoxface
  • 47181288 / Pikkolinaa; album stole Saki from Jasonlord
  • 52720617 / Shadowrangerz; album stole Reinhard from xmalietxpnoix, & others
  • 49536461 / ancientstonn; album stole Nina from DarklingJade
  • 53277880 / kristofs2; stole Gremory from oobie88(?)
  • ? / backoffmynutz; album stole Vampiress + more from Madgreen777
  • 52564801 / victorfay69; album stole Vlad from MrUbiquity
  • 50856219 / Subwerd; album stole Edgar from aniken671
  • 53779094 / hawt-tamales; stole Vlad and Nina from Kainxkaname
  • 61318450 / Juana; album stole Chiara from phamsean
  • 61721944 / Jayno19 ; level break stole Matahari from xHE-MANx

  • 81447162 / Gkdefined ; level break stole Eurydike from nohara
  • 29138313 / Angelsdeath0 ; multiple scams
  • 90922222 / samanthacorpu ; multiple scams
  • 62670696 / FantaFun80 ; scammed 6*s from snipercat12
  • 89559491 / MiaBear40 ; throwaway scam account
  • 91928681 / kalebberge55 ; album stole Monica from ModdingAllDay
  • ? / magerage5 ; scammer's old account



Feel free to use this thread as discussion on particular scams. Please post evidence of any new scams so that people may be added to this list. If a scam involves a forum member, they will be investigated.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:17 pm

(I hope I'm posting this in the right spot) I've been looking into the Pikkolinaa/Jasonrlord scam and I've collected a boat load of evidence on the matter. I don't think Pikkolinaa has gotten rid of the Saki, but sadly, this player hasn't returned to the game for some time. I was hoping to get a chance to talk to Pikkolinaa and try to negotiate the cards return. If anyone can get this player to check back on Fantasica, I would greatly appreciate it. I've had a few allies send a short message to him/her on Deity Wars/RoB, but no luck so far :/
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:39 pm

If I took a stab in the dark I bet it was a fake 'middleman' account. They'll prob never come back on.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:38 pm

I don't think it's a fake account--But I am worried it will become abandoned before I can talk to them :/
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:48 am

Will the names on here be confirmed or just added when people say someone scammed them?

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:17 am

The scammer alliance and the evidence in here:







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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:27 am

ElysianField wrote:
Will the names on here be confirmed or just added when people say someone scammed them?
Preferably confirmed with as much evidence as possible -- I've noticed when there's an uproar, the person who album stole the card will typically be very antagonistic or even admit they have the card in possession, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:37 am

clocksprocket wrote:
ElysianField wrote:
Will the names on here be confirmed or just added when people say someone scammed them?
Preferably confirmed with as much evidence as possible -- I've noticed when there's an uproar, the person who album stole the card will typically be very antagonistic or even admit they have the card in possession, etc.

it can be played so it will be hard to confirm everything.

but good to have a list.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 am

Also, report that Ancientstonn stole Soulsign's Agri by using a fake account with album.

My ex-ally Soulsign told me he saw his ally Ancientstonn stole Agri from him by using that trick.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:02 am

your ex-ally told you he saw his ally stole agri from your ex-ally .

i wonder how much of this is true. knowing only that.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:58 pm

I remember lukef4 claims ancientstonn stole his nina.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:07 pm

I can ''claim'' someone stole my Leevi without evidence it's nothing but claiming.

that's the Risk of a list like this.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:22 pm

ElysianField wrote:
your ex-ally told you he saw his ally stole agri from your ex-ally .

i wonder how much of this is true. knowing only that.

There are few people saw Ancientstonn showed the agri as leader after collosseum event, including me.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:56 am

Hi all, Sapran's ID is 51227612 but he's blacklisting whoever knows that he scammed Vlad and Doro so not much point in talking to him
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:18 pm

Please be aware that the following scammer has gotten a hold of Belethi/Vine and several other cards from others players.

Shadowrangerz
ID # 52720617

Fantasica has already been contacted and if things follow as they did the last time a scammer did something like this...

People who trade with him or his alts will probably end up being suspended/banned for a week if not permanently.

I suggest being careful about buying or trading a Belethi or Vine from a non-top 15 ranked person unless you wish to take that risk of being suspended/banned onto yourself.

If you know this person's email / paypal, please leave a message in forums so we can lock his paypal too since apparently he is a real money trader.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:18 am

Hi guys, I will update the mentioned users next time I'm on my computer.

I would appreciate however if people mentioned how exactly something went down.

ie. user so and so album traded Anastasia for 5* collateral, other player kept it an refused to give it back, etc. Screenshots of wall posts or evidence in-game would be best.

So in the instance above, who/how did the Belethi/Vine/Reinhard (troi) get stolen? Thanks.


e: also, I do know that it's relatively easy to accuse someone and all that. However usually when these things go down you're left with one very distraught player down a really nice rare card and another user selling that card later, telling the first they're not giving it back (or keeping it hostage with other demands) or anything else. For safety, I'll choose to assume that people accused of scamming most likely have, but I urge people to talk to both sides and get them to report here if there is some actually discrepancy. (By the way though, scammers will protest their innocence through hell and back - I've seen it a million times before. Be careful believing someone just because they've "been so nice!" before. You'd be surprised what people do for cards.)

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:30 pm

It's just sad to see people scamming people behind thick wall of online anonymity which is down right unforgivable. I've been scammed before from other online games and boy it really does hurt you big time for the effort you put in. I just can't understand why people would do such things. Trust is a nice thing to have, give others a sense of belonging. Well, in this world online or not, these people don't even care what effort you put in. My 2 cents
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:31 am

Vertacus wrote:
I remember lukef4 claims ancientstonn stole his nina.

Ancientstonn stole Nina from DarklingJade, not lukef4, i was there when it happened. It was an album trade Emma - Nina, but Ancientstonn never returned Nina.
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:44 am

Updated...ish.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:38 pm

Another one on the loose.. kristofs2 53277880, stole Gremory from oobie. I have screenshots of him actually admitting it...

btw, Ancientstonn's ID is 49536461
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:24 pm

Ruego wrote:
Another one on the loose.. kristofs2 53277880, stole Gremory from oobie. I have screenshots of him actually admitting it...

btw, Ancientstonn's ID is 49536461

Is this proper evidence? I was skimming and came across this...



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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:28 am

Yes, that's the kind of "evidence" we look for. I said it earlier -- a lot of times, scammers end up flaunting their goods or taunting the person they scammed ('haha you're stupid, you're not getting it back, pay me 500TE and I'll give it back' etc etc) and appear pretty unapologetic about it. And even if they do give it back after negotiation and so on, I think it's best to steer clear of those people regardless.

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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:31 am

Bookmark! Thanks for this warning. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:52 pm

"Madgreen777" Vampriess and another 6* was scammed by "backoffmynutz"
People claiming "backoffmynutz" is aka "dodad123"

Ok, after Elysian's comment below - I took the extra step and ask Madgreen for evidence.
They're kik'ing - it's implied that Deven is "backoffmynutz" since that's who Madgreen is accusing.



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PostSubject: Re: Beware: Scammers [No Longer Updated][8/29/2013]   Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:08 pm

We need more than that.

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