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 Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]

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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:19 pm

Anyway to update this list... I find it very useful...
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:31 pm

Unless someone redoes the post only clocks can edit the first page and title.
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Okay well the formula is right on the first page of this post isn't it? I not it is definitly in my thread.

And Crow and Clocks seemed to be associated outside of the forum so maybe we can PM him and ask him to ask Clocks for the multiplers...

Until then I just want to thank Broken Chicken, who has quite the eye for comparison!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:42 am

Any possible updates to this list? This is really informative.
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:26 pm

sticky please? very useful info
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:19 pm

bump for an update!
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:29 pm

xl_astros_lx wrote:
bump for an update!

I doubt it will ever be updated again, along with Dnonamos (I cant spell his name) since it seems both of their creators have quit...

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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:53 pm

predator852 wrote:
xl_astros_lx wrote:
bump for an update!

I doubt it will ever be updated again, along with Dnonamos (I cant spell his name) since it seems both of their creators have quit...

Such a waste it was really informative for new players like me learning the ropes...
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:37 pm

BayushiKira wrote:
predator852 wrote:
xl_astros_lx wrote:
bump for an update!

I doubt it will ever be updated again, along with Dnonamos (I cant spell his name) since it seems both of their creators have quit...

Such a waste it was really informative for new players like me learning the ropes...

It's still nice and covers a lot of cards. And when you add in the comparisons broken chicken made it gets a little more expansive. If you still want to make use of this, there is still a way:

use the unit encyclopedia/jpwiki to find the stats of a card not on the list

then use the encyclopedia/wiki to find a character that closely resembles your unit.
*look for attack type first (melee/missile/range) then speed, unless mage, then skill...then look at the stat differences
*land more valuable than air more valuable than sea...
*KB is generally regarded as the most useful skill...the others tend to all tie in terms of usefulness...

e: and then based on where the card you compared is on the list, you can fgure out if the card you were looking for is right above or below it Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:40 pm

brokenchicken wrote:
Here's my closest analogy:

Seth:
6* / Missile / 30 / D / 150 / Slow 6
76220 / 89360 / 49975 // 215555

Saki:
6* / Missile / 25 / D / 150 / Slow 6
82790 / 76220 / 56580 // 215590

Virtually identical overall. Ground and Air are generally more useful than Sea, so a slight nod to Seth there due to better Air numbers, but a slightly higher Deploy.

Among Missile units, the next highest rated is:

Anastasia:
6* / Missile / 20 / D / 150 / Slow 6
92313 / 72620 / 59480 // 224413

Higher stats + higher ground attack + lower deploy == higher in the ranks.

So figure near Saki and below Ana in Tier 2.

A beautiful example of comparisons...he found two missle units, one that would be better and one that would be worst on the list, and he figured Seth would be in the middle! Easy!

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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:46 pm

Very detailed work. Smile

Please update when you have time Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:10 pm

Can we get an update?
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:34 am

Guys, I'm confused, which is better?
Alvida or Monica?

Alvida:
6* / melee / 30 / B / 130 / poison 6
69580 / 56400 / 79400 // 205380

Monica:
6* / magic / 30 / D / 150 / slow 6
90010 / 63870 / 103150 // 257030

on one hit Monica deals more but her speed is D, unlike Alvida.
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:12 pm

Zenobius wrote:
Guys, I'm confused, which is better?
Alvida or Monica?

Alvida:
6* / melee / 30 / B / 130 / poison 6
69580 / 56400 / 79400 // 205380

Monica:
6* / magic / 30 / D / 150 / slow 6
90010 / 63870 / 103150 // 257030

on one hit Monica deals more but her speed is D, unlike Alvida.

Well you can't really compare a kitchen knife and a gun. Surely you can't use a gun to peel off your apple nor can you use a knife to kill a deer a few yards away.
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:15 pm

Thanks for this list. Very very helpful!
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PostSubject: Re: Struesdell's Tier Lists [11/3/12]   Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:25 am

Don't know if you got this data, but Kyo will become a speed A unit when placed as leader and with the 20% speed boost.
Never tried Rem(don't have one), but it seems like other B speed units remain as speed B when as leader, like Barbara and Dermond.
Don't know if this helps or not.
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