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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:23 am

My weights go AA --> knockback --> slow --> poison --> attack boost.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:03 am

Hyde wrote:
Poison was a must have for me. I found that when I had a unit use poison the damage they inflicted on me was matched by that done to them. Of course, I was a lower level than now so that may change but poison made the difference between loss and victory.

Poison definitely helped me out a lot in the last Coliseum event too, but only cause a lot of people had Gloria as their leader. Now that Sonia is the most sought-out leader for many, I feel like I can't rely on Poison to save my back when Area Atk skill kicks in for her. Pretty much, Knockback and Slow skills are the way to go, in my opinion as well.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:37 am

I'm debating on the following line up here :

Anchor/Wingmen
Charles
Charles
Saki

Sidelines
Charles
Oktavia
Reinhard
Nina
Vlad
Ellen
Petra


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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:45 am

BkWiz wrote:
I'm debating on the following line up here :

Anchor/Wingmen
Charles
Charles
Saki

Sidelines
Charles
Oktavia
Reinhard
Nina
Vlad

Wanna trade me one of those Charles?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:58 am

I'd love to if it wasn't for the fact I'm still locked -_-
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:24 am

jsherman wrote:
Rakath wrote:
At least when it came to Venus the skill tiering was:
Knockback = Area Attack > Poison = Slow > Attack Boost

I would move slow up to the top tier.

Knockback was great if you hit off a big attack person, but it also could just hit a less important attacker when you are facing an onslaught of opponent attacks.

Slow has the ability to have one or a few of your players jump over opponent attacks. I can't tell you how many times a slow going off (even from a weakling like Maia), saved me.

Area Attack is good for the double dmg.

Slow can also do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if your units can't take advantage of the speed change. Cause I have seen Slow go off and not adjust the incoming attack order at all when unit speed ratings just didn't allow the change to impact them.

Knockback takes a unit out of turn, which is a piece of damage you don't take for several rounds. Even if it doesn't take out the threat, it did something of value. The only time it isn't of value is if it pushes a stronger ally into the end of round attacks you would rather not attack. Which, admittedly, is where Slow would be better. But the rest of the fight? Knockback is the more effective ability.

Every ability can go off in useless ways (...except AA, which is why it's Top Shelf here), Knockback can go off when no units are on the schedule to attack. Slow can happen and not change the order because of a vast speed disadvantage. Poison can go off then be undermined by an opponent's poison, or go off when the last three moves in the round are yours.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:40 am

The skills going off will be a bit Lucky if it's on the right time.

i will be focusing on Damage , i will take units with skills but i Will pay more attention to damage and not the skill that those units have.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:16 am

I actually started playing around the time Venus colloseum started. I had kind of crappy units all around ( my highest level was a lvl 28ish Adalaide) I actually managed to win a lot of battles with the use of poison. I actually felt like it was too powerfull. Im certainly throwing in another poison unit during this event.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:07 am

Hi i am new to this game so pardon me if this is a noob question.
For colosseum-type events, the deploy limit is 100.
I get to send out 5 units.
Can the 5 units be the exact same cards? Or must they all be different?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:19 am

you can have the same units.

as long as the deploy cost doesn't go over the 100 Deploy limit

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:21 am

Also, for colosseum-type events, is there like a level range of players i get?
Or is it all random?
Meaning a lv10 might meet a lv100 player?
Is there such a chance?
Thanks Elysian for the reply Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:28 am

It is possible yes ^

but that depends on the rank.

people in the same rank range will be put together <- i think that's how it worked in the Colosseum.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:29 am

How is the rank calculated?
Anything i can gain to give me an idea?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:35 am

i mean the ranking in the event.

Someone that's placed 1000th will not be very likely to have to battle the first ranked.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:15 pm

My current line up:

5*Sonia (74) [AA 5]
5*Yuki (65) [KB 5]
4*Samantha (80) [Slow 4]
4*Dhimitrios (55) [None]
3*Katharine (52) [Poison 3]

This is my best possible 5 unit line up. All level 52-80.
Do you guys think it would be best to stick with this or substitute Katherine for Dhimitrios and Katharine? My best 4 unit line up would then be:

5*Sonia (74) [AA 5]
5*Yuki (65) [KB 5]
4*Samantha (80) [Slow 4]
4*Katherine (66) [KB 4]

What would you guys go for? Or rather, which one would you least like to battle against. =p
Also, how valuable is that extra unit? 5 units vs. 4?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:45 pm

Um... each option there has pros and cons.

The Five man unit gives you a good ability spread (Poison is a great thing to have if to just occasionally deactivate being poisoned yourself) Dhimitrios does good damage, and the others are all solid choices.

The Four unit set has two KB units (good), and everything is overall strong enough. Having an AA is good, and Slow will probalby help you out. The only issue is that nothing there is overwhelmingly fast or powerful to make up for less units. So long as your allies are strong fast you can make this work.

But another option would be to try and get an Estlin, Scarlet, Robert or Biance to replace your 3-Star.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:05 pm

Rakath wrote:
Um... each option there has pros and cons.

The Five man unit gives you a good ability spread (Poison is a great thing to have if to just occasionally deactivate being poisoned yourself) Dhimitrios does good damage, and the others are all solid choices.

The Four unit set has two KB units (good), and everything is overall strong enough. Having an AA is good, and Slow will probalby help you out. The only issue is that nothing there is overwhelmingly fast or powerful to make up for less units. So long as your allies are strong fast you can make this work.

But another option would be to try and get an Estlin, Scarlet, Robert or Biance to replace your 3-Star.

Thank you. ^_^
If I did replace my 3* with a 4*, I wouldn't have time to level it up... and not sure if I want to spend a lot for already leveled up 4*. I may just stick with what I have and save up for some good units for another event.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:16 pm

Well, leveling wise getting to 30-40 usually evens to what a capped 3-Star is worth. And they will level during the event too. But what you have is definitely more than I had during Venus and I managed pretty well there. Not, you know, top 100 well. But well enough to feel the event worthwhile.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:36 pm

Mine is
Hilde (25)
Tullia (15)
Sonia (25)
Samantha (15)
Remika (20)

Tullia's maxed, Hilde is at 82, but the others are really low, hope I can boost them during the event.

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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:55 pm

Do units get EXP for participating in battles?
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:57 pm

PVP matches don't give Unit EXP. Just player EXP and Ally Points. The main event of the Colosseum gives EXP.

I'm working on getting my planned units to LV60+ where possible. Which is focusing on Yuki (51) and Sonia (53). I wanna get Livia and Tullia closer to 70 if I can. And depending on how troublesome poison is I might swap Livia out for Achillea (since I have a lot of Poison allies).

Fortunately I got Heide at 90+, making her a very nice big damage gun from the gate.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:49 pm

So do we know if this is happening tomorrow? I don't see a maintenance notification up yet.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:57 pm

jsherman wrote:
So do we know if this is happening tomorrow? I don't see a maintenance notification up yet.

The notice of maintenance is buried in the Oct 19 announcements after the "How to Receive your Rewards" from the last event.
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:47 pm

Not the best line up but im going with

Succubus (30)
Kyo (15)
Laura (15)
Stefan (15)
Meg (25)

Lots of poison T_T
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PostSubject: Re: [EVENT] The Key of Goetia [Oct 22 - Oct 29]    Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:53 pm

im feeling pretty good about my line up ^^

Kyo Pois / B / 48,060 dmg
Sonia AA / C / 45,363 dmg
Remi KB / D / 44,012 dmg
Achill KB / B / 36,234 dmg
Sam Slow / C / 36,077 dmg

I weighted them with damage potential and speed since not all of them are max level but they will be by day 2 or so. I will probably swap Sam for Livia if Kyo's speed doesn't keep the poison up and off of me. I also hope to somehow swindle a Yuki during the event but I have no idea how my line up would fit that deploy cost ><.
I was a big fan of poison on the last area event, it kept my low level 3* booty in good standing.

And thanks for everyone's hard work getting all this info and discussion here.


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