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 [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible

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PostSubject: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:20 am

With the new Dragon event comes the possibility of using our monsters as actual soldiers, rather than just defenders of our castle.

However, i've noted that they have an attack stat and sometimes a different speed of the one mentioned in their card. Therefore, i ask everyone's help in obtaining data for different monsters.

While obtaining the attack stat is also a good idea, many monsters may not be MLB, so the record of the attack stat is optional. What matters the most is the Battle Speed, which many will seek for their team strategies.


How can i find such information?

On the Edit Team screen, when you press Swap Unit on a monster, a list with avainable monsters will appear. The information presented here is the same as the one you see on the standard Unit window - its resistances, lvl, HP, and most important here, their Card Speed (or base speed).

Once you choose your desired card, it will appear on the Edit Team screen with two different stats, along with the monster's level: Attack, and Speed. This speed, however, tends to be different in some monsters - because it's a different speed, the Battle speed.

Recording both values from each monster is what i ask. As an optional way to help you can also record their HP & Attack stats, so we can check if, in some way, both are linked to the monster's level.



Alright... now that i have what you need, how can i help?


Simply copy the template below and paste on your thread, and write the data you wish to donate:


Monster:
Rank:
Card Speed:
Battle Speed:
Level:
HP:
Attack:


Here is an example:

Monster: Gregory
Rank: 7*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: C
Level: 160
HP: 837050
Attack: 15747




Anyone is free to leave the data they've found. I'll make the compilation once the event is over, so that wiki/spreadsheet managers can place them on their websites.

I'd thank any contributions for this list Wink


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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:47 pm

Don't have many monsters, but here are the few that I do have
Battle speed (Card speed)
Amor - D (D)
Record - C (D)
Haine - D (D)
Poker - D (D)
Spade - D (D)
Rolo - D (D)

Record actually... became faster  Shocked 


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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:18 pm

Golem -D (e on card)
Qilin C - (d on card)
Pale C - (d on card)
King D - (e on card)
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:30 pm

Amarelo D
Hera D
Melanippe D
Otrere D
Bergamot D
Agnes C
Blad D
Charl C
Dorothy C
Benedetta D
Luce D
Tullia D
Earth Baby D
Fennel D
Frankenstein D
Garm D
Halloween Ghost D
Hraesvelgr D
Jiang Shi C
Jormungand C
King Mandragora E
Krieg C
Calcitrare C
Cion D
Mermaid B
Rufia D
Paars D
Altum D
Dauphin D
Riascca D
Pegasus A
Anne D
Henry D
Mary D
Placer D
Azure Dragon D
Adele D
Hugues D
Margot D
Rosemary D
Unicorn A
Stray Cat S
Verde D
Viola D
Witch D
Black Tortoise D
Vermilion Bird D


The speeds mentioned are from the card itself so you could probably have an idea of what the battle speed is...

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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:33 am

Dullahan attacks at the same time as Closer so I guess B speed? (D speed on card)

Fafnir attacks with Ludmila, so C speed? (D speed on card)

Tesera goes after Golem so D speed. (D speed on card)
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:59 am

Amarelo
battle - C

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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:12 am

AzakaZero wrote:
Dullahan attacks at the same time as Closer so I guess B speed? (D speed on card)

Fafnir attacks with Ludmila, so C speed? (D speed on card)

Tesera goes after Golem so D speed. (D speed on card)

FYI, it actually says, on your team screen, what speeds they get in the battle. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:27 am

Hajkster wrote:
AzakaZero wrote:
Dullahan attacks at the same time as Closer so I guess B speed? (D speed on card)

Fafnir attacks with Ludmila, so C speed? (D speed on card)

Tesera goes after Golem so D speed. (D speed on card)

FYI, it actually says, on your team screen, what speeds they get in the battle. Smile

*doh*

Well, I was correct regarding the speeds.

Cyclops is D speed (E on card). Was expecting to use him but found better options.
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:44 am

Placing my findings here, since i'll be editing the first page to ease players with their search for data.

Succubus
Card speed: D
Battle speed: D

Arger
Card speed: D
Battle speed: D

Poker
Card speed: D
Battle speed: D

Dine
Card speed: D
Battle speed: C

Stray Cat
Card Speed: S
Battle speed: A
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:50 am

Merrow B lvl 154 atk 192885
Dullahan B lvl 111 atk 56297
Azul C lvl 108 atk 84920
Succubus D lvl 42 atk 47709
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:05 am

oh didnt realize you were keeping a thread going vaati. i started one too -_- here's what i have so far

http://1drv.ms/1cInBwm

thanks again vaati
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:46 am

using the alphanumeric speed seems kind of... pointless. Each letter represents a numeric value within a range and each letter has overlapping values with the ones next to it. There are many examples of D speeds attacking before C's in arenas. We know the exact attack speed value of many units, this info would be much more helpful if you were to give the monsters speed ranges based on which known values they sit between. For instance my units (all max level broken - including monsters) attack in this order: Closer (leadered) >Vermelho.m > Nina > King >Muriel > Golem > Mechthild >
We know that Closer, Nina and Muriel are at .5 and Metch is .6 (Vermelho.m as a unit is D speed and attacks at .8 but in my battle goes before C speed Nina, Kings are E speed monsters but attack before D speed Muriel/Metch)

As a side note, i had thought that the Chinese or Korean wiki had attack values out to the .xxx value but those do not seem to be up in the unit list but i have no idea where it is... anyway if you had the numeric value you could actually compare monsters to units and see how speed increases would effect them.
I also observe that my level 118 Golem goes behind my 120 Golem so we also can say that level effects speed, so in order to have a level comparison you should only post attack placement/values for mlb monsters/units
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:19 pm

I know 9TM was B speed
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:45 am

Hunkamajunka wrote:
I know 9TM was B speed

Since this thread is being revived, i believe a note should be placed: the second raising event's units were scrapped unto different events, suggesting that our Fantasica version may not see a Raising event that soon (or, as some would say, never again).

Still, i'll make tweaks to this thread if another raising event does rise up. I believe a lot of players will have maxxed (or even MLB) monsters to compare and analize stats.
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:45 am

pinging this thread because new raising event! means more monster data! please post new data! not sure if vaati made a list somewhere. i'm maintaining my own list at http://1drv.ms/1qO6iyC
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:33 pm

To be honest, i still haven't done such a list, as there weren't amny MLB monsters (some considered that monster speed/atk stats changed with lvl).

I'm ranking on the event, but once i'm done, since i won't be doing the upcoming guild event i'll make the list on this thread if it's of your liking.
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:10 am

Here are a few templates that i've done from my MLB monsters.

Monster: Lava Golem
Rank: 7*
Card Speed: E
Battle Speed: D
Level: 160
HP: 803568
Attack: 271160

Monster: Gregory
Rank: 7*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: C
Level: 160
HP: 837050
Attack: 15747

Monster: Succubus
Rank: 6*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: D
Level: 140
HP: 419335
Attack: 116581

Monster: Edythe
Rank: 6*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: C
Level: 160
HP: 575679
Attack: 129933

Monster: Lisin
Rank: 6*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: C
Level: 160
HP: 531396
Attack: 118493
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:24 am

lol gregory attack number looks wrong Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:11 am

^ yep, MLB Gregory monster attack is 264,603
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:29 am

thanks i needed those numbers
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:01 pm

Monster: Fire Dragon
Rank: 6*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: C
Level: 140
HP: 560918
Attack: 136207

Monster: Saltaire
Rank: 6*
Card Speed: D
Battle Speed: D
Level: 140
HP: 516635
Attack: 121938
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PostSubject: Re: [Dragon Event] Monster Battle Speed/Attack List - Requesting data if possible   Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:52 am

Btw, the HP of the monster is not the same as the HP they have in battle. I once used a 4* King in my lineup and while King has tons of HP, my team died much faster than when I used a 5* monster.
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